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The Dudemeister Regular MemberJoined: 04 Jul 2013 Posts: xxx Location: Texas | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:19 am Mail service subject field: Are the new Conn Vintage Ones any Skillful? | | | I was playing on a large ring with a friend terminal night and we swapped horns for a while. He had an early V1. He got his horn early when Fred Powell was there. He had ordered a horn online. When he got it the valve stems weren't centered in the holes- he called the factory and talked to Powell who offered to bandy out the horn. My friend asked Fred to pick him a horn. The horn is peachy! Very nice sound, great valves, first-class intonation, overnice blow. What is the likelihood that a new one would play like his? He says the one he returned played just as proficient. Has anyone tried the ones from the terminal few years? Non much oppurtunity to try horns hither, so would take to purchase online. _________________ 1959 Former's Recording Bach LR180-37 CarolBrass 5000l-yst Carol Satin Lacquer pocket tpt Flip Oakes WT- SOLD Conn V-one Flugel | |
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B. Scriver Heavyweight MemberJoined: xiv Jan 2002 Posts: 1195 Location: Toronto, Canada | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:xix am Mail service subject area: | | | They are a decent horn. The valve section is equally good as whatsoever one out there. The bell is practiced but blows big. The key is a good leadpipe and from my experience, your best bet is to get a skilful V1 and then accept Charlie Melk put i of his pipes on the horn with one of his receivers. I really had Charlie put a leadpipe and a bell on mine. Plays great but information technology stays in the box now every bit a backup as I play a Melk Cardinal Trumpet as my #1 horn. I know GR has nearly vi V1'southward in his possession. All are skillful horns and the ones with the smaller venturis play the best. Brian Scriver www.grmouthpieces.com | |
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bagmangood Heavyweight Fellow member Joined: 26 Feb 2009 Posts: 1260 Location: SF Bay Area | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 seven:26 am Mail service discipline: | | | My get-go trumpet teacher (last time I talked to him) alternated betwixt a V1 and a Bach 37. He liked it quite a bit - but I don't remember always trying it though and so I can't requite personal experiences. | |
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The Dudemeister Regular MemberJoined: 04 Jul 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Texas | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 eight:45 am Mail service field of study: | | | I would consider his a lot improve than "a decent horn". Mayhap he got a adept 1. It was one of those horns you go along thinking about. I played a Selmer TT a few years back that was the same mode- still wish I had tried to buy that horn. Sometimes you run beyond a horn that merely has something special that makes it a "great" horn. I'd say my Bach is a good one. I similar my Recording a lot. The Ballad cuts really well, only is non really an all around horn. I had a golden plated WT for about 7-8 yrs that never suited me, just was still a "skilful" horn. None of them have been truly "slap-up". His V1 and the Selmer a few years back were truly special. _________________ 1959 Old'southward Recording Bach LR180-37 CarolBrass 5000l-yst Carol Satin Lacquer pocket tpt Flip Oakes WT- SOLD Conn 5-one Flugel | |
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intrepidpooch Heavyweight Member Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 757 Location: Jacksonville, FL | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:21 am Mail service bailiwick: | | | I used to play a Vintage One and it was a peachy horn. Nicholas Payton played one for several years as did Jeremy Pelt and they both sounded like a meg bucks on the V1. _________________ Ray Callender http://musicians.allaboutjazz.com/raycallender http://www.myspace.com/raycallender | |
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PW-Gene Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Mar 2009 Posts: 909 Location: Joliet, IL | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:22 am Post subject area: | | | Just to exist different... Have you considered talking to Fred Powell about one of his horns? _________________ Ska/Reggae - The Selectones New Orleans Funk - The Big Lagniappe Raw Brass HB2 - Hammond PW Gen II ACB Doubler Flugel - Curry 5FL | |
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The Dudemeister Regular Fellow memberJoined: 04 Jul 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Texas | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:52 pm Postal service subject field: | | | Great thought. I messaged him on Facebook. Anyone know what he gets for his custom horns? _________________ 1959 Old's Recording Bach LR180-37 CarolBrass 5000l-yst Carol Satin Lacquer pocket tpt Flip Oakes WT- SOLD Conn V-i Flugel | |
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razeontherock Heavyweight MemberJoined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10610 Location: The country of GR and Getzen | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 two:08 pm Post subject: | | | B. Scriver wrote: | The key is a proficient leadpipe and from my feel, your best bet is to get a skillful V1 and then have Charlie Melk put i of his pipes on the horn with one of his receivers. I actually had Charlie put a leadpipe and a bell on mine. | Sounds almost like ... B. Scriver wrote: | Plays great only it stays in the box now as a backup as I play a Melk Fundamental Trumpet every bit my #1 horn. | Yeah, like you lot're better off just having Charlie brand ya a horn. Outstanding workmanship. What bong did yous put on your V1? | |
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Matthew Anklan Heavyweight MemberJoined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 1068 Location: Los Angeles | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 three:36 pm Post field of study: | | | The Powell era V-1s are outstanding horns - I've endemic a couple of those, (1B-46, and a 1B-34) both of which were 24K gold plated. With either horn, I never had issues with audio, pitch, blend, etc. They were just nifty horns. Easy to play. Here's a review I found from a few years back: http://jazztimes.com/articles/20084-conn-vintage-one-trumpet Fred Powell was one of the best when he designed the V-1, and he has come a long way since so! If you want to go a fiddling further down that path, give Fred a telephone call and schedule a shop visit! He has so many nifty options to fit all kinds of different player'south needs. If your heart is assault a 5-i, beginning looking at some of the older ones, or if that's non possible, play test as many equally you tin earlier you brand a purchase. Some of the newer ones I've played just don't measure up, although one of my students bought a newer one that is excellent. Attempt before you purchase!!! _________________ Matthew Anklan world wide web.matthewanklan.com https://takelessons.com/profile/matthew-a47?service=trumpet&online=1 | |
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razeontherock Heavyweight MemberJoined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10610 Location: The land of GR and Getzen | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:09 pm Post field of study: | | | Matthew Anklan wrote: | The Powell era Five-1s are outstanding horns | What years are those? I ask because my Dad has a V1, and I similar it. I retrieve he bought it in 2001. | |
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Matthew Anklan Heavyweight Fellow memberJoined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 1068 Location: Los Angeles | Posted: Thu April 03, 2014 4:57 pm Post discipline: | | | razeontherock wrote: | Matthew Anklan wrote: | The Powell era V-1s are outstanding horns | What years are those? I inquire because my Dad has a V1, and I like it. I think he bought it in 2001. | Yeah, I believe Powell was still there in 2001. Which bell does the horn have? _________________ Matthew Anklan www.matthewanklan.com https://takelessons.com/profile/matthew-a47?service=trumpet&online=i | |
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razeontherock Heavyweight MemberJoined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10610 Location: The state of GR and Getzen | Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:11 pm Post subject: | | | Matthew Anklan wrote: | Yeah, I believe Powell was still in that location in 2001. Which bell does the horn take? | Uh ... I'one thousand not sure. Is it just the deviation between 1B and 1BR, with the R indicating more than copper in the alloy? | |
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The Dudemeister Regular MemberJoined: 04 Jul 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Texas | Posted: Friday April 04, 2014 6:51 am Mail service subject: Fred Powell contact | | | What's the best style to go in bear on with Fred Powell? I tried messaging through Facebook, simply didn't get a response. I can't find a website for his horns. _________________ 1959 Old's Recording Bach LR180-37 CarolBrass 5000l-yst Carol Satin Lacquer pocket tpt Flip Oakes WT- SOLD Conn V-ane Flugel | |
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hose Heavyweight MemberJoined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 1801 Location: Winter Garden, FL | Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 half-dozen:55 am Post subject: Re: Fred Powell contact | | | The Dudemeister wrote: | What'due south the best mode to arrive bear upon with Fred Powell? I tried messaging through Facebook, but didn't get a response. I tin't discover a website for his horns. | jail cell 574 370 5160 Brassdoc2@aol.com Fred is decorated and non like shooting fish in a barrel to go a concur of. _________________ Dave Wisner GR....Warburton Yamaha 6335RC Yamaha 8335RS Lawler Flugel Kanstul cornet | |
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Matthew Anklan Heavyweight MemberJoined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 1068 Location: Los Angeles | Posted: Lord's day Apr 06, 2014 7:38 am Post bailiwick: | | | Phone is best! _________________ Matthew Anklan www.matthewanklan.com https://takelessons.com/profile/matthew-a47?service=trumpet&online=1 | |
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ScottA Heavyweight MemberJoined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 603 Location: Florida | Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:34 am Post subject: | | | Ane affair to pay attention to, as Brian mentions, is the venturi size. The official word, as I understand it, is that the model number indicates the venturi size. For instance the 46 should mensurate .346 and the 34 should measure .340. Adept luck with that. I have five-6 V1 leadpipes in the shop right now and not one matches the model number. These pipes are from about vii-eight years agone. Too worth mentioning: Bach's official spec for venturi size is .345 but all of my favorite Bach's mensurate .340-.343. _________________ Scott Apelgren The Horn Section Melbourne, FL www.TheHornSection.com | |
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trumpetgeekIII Veteran Fellow memberJoined: 01 Jan 2009 Posts: 237 Location: McMinnville, TN.???? | Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:08 am Mail service bailiwick: | | | Every bit nearly volition land here, Fred builds an EXCELLENT trumpet! Just he is the hardest working human being in show business concern. So do have patience and you will not be disappointed! I have two 2009 POWELLs that I bought a twelvemonth and a half ago here on TH. And, lets but say... I at present can care less almost any other horn I've played in the past. If you ask me, the discussion CUSTOM is just a marketing strategy. So I don't recall y'all will be deplorable if you lot don't have your POWELL custom congenital to your specs. These horns are built by a professional and are made for professionals. _________________ BACH STRAD '72 LAWLER LSML POWELL CUSTOM ECLIPSE MY ECLIPSE ENIGMA ECLIPSE EQUINOX EClIPSE FLUGEL CALICCHIO #2555 SMITH-WATKINS | |
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Matthew Anklan Heavyweight Fellow memberJoined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 1068 Location: Los Angeles | Posted: Lord's day Apr thirteen, 2014 9:19 am Post subject: | | | trumpetgeekIII wrote: | If you inquire me, the discussion CUSTOM is just a marketing strategy. | Take your horns to Fred to get them prepare up for you, and your thought almost a custom horn will dramatically change. _________________ Matthew Anklan www.matthewanklan.com https://takelessons.com/profile/matthew-a47?service=trumpet&online=1 | |
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TSUtrumpet Veteran MemberJoined: twenty Mar 2006 Posts: 120 Location: Kansas City, Missouri | Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 viii:35 pm Post subject: | | | Oh man. I just talked to Fred today and gear up a visit to his shop for early on next month. I can't wait to pick up my new Bb trumpet! They really are the best playing horns in my opinion. And they audio amazing as well! I can't wait... _________________ Professor of Contumely Graceland University, IA BA Truman State University MM Florida State University DMA UMKC Bb Custom Powell Trumpet C Bach Strad 229 25H Piccolo Schilke P5/4BG Eb Schilke E3L Pickett 3C/24 and Bach 7E (picc) | |
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razeontherock Heavyweight MemberJoined: 05 Jun 2004 Posts: 10610 Location: The country of GR and Getzen | Posted: Tue Apr xv, 2014 9:21 pm Mail field of study: | | | So here nosotros are all talking about our custom horns in a thread request of the new V1's are any good So apparently at that place are already "vintage" V1's? Has at that place been a definite decline in their quality, or are they just not quite a Powell? Come to retrieve of it the simply non-custom Bb I own is a Conn 22B. From 1925. Was that a custom horn, for somebody? Harry Glantz wasn't with the NY Symphony til '28, and so I'm non certain I believe what I've heard nigh the New York Symphony model being made for him. | |
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